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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
这踏马是个啥作为恐怖片是彻头彻尾的失败。黑人似乎又找到一种发声的渠道了，在小成本恐怖片里发声，成本低传播广流传久，恭喜啊，可是急功急利拍的不好看，最后就感动自己。话说回来，黑人们自己会看吗，不一定。
片子拍的还是很工整 但气氛实在是没烘托出来 想要表达一种口口相传的恐怖 但人物性格和情感都没有建立起来 还总想着平权的哪些事 结果是一件都没做好 演员就更加一言难尽 有种有力气没地方用的感觉 片子整个呈现出来的效果比较混乱 配乐也中规中矩
又是对着镜子召唤 啥啥都是镜子的锅 对着镜子骂街能出来啥？
女导演挺自我的，不少画面看得出来追求，就是忽略惊悚片本质的氛围塑造和氛围接氛围的设计。
开头就在泄气，恐怖的氛围没起来，我就看见一群人在喊口号似的，告诉我一切多么恐怖，黑人社团只要肤色不对，在哪里都不对。糖果人，不如说是给你裹了一层蜜糖的毒物，正如黑人的处境。咋说呢，我随便你写啥议题，问题是，这片子，它不行啊，它就是很无聊，作为一个打着恐怖片的旗号的片子，我看了啥啊。
08.27.21 The camera language is amazing! Some really talent perspectives shooting from the city and buildings. 'Get-out' style build-up and slow burn. What an awesome thriller work.
恐怖片就别加社会议题了，用candyman的形象能吓唬住谁呢。
一星加给片尾的皮影戏和全片出色的色彩运用与镜头语言，故事真的太平淡乏味了，恐怖气氛也很糟糕，明明拥有比老版更为出色的设定和对“糖果人”这一概念更为深入的解析，却还是挽救不了如同白开水一样的叙事，女主的反向召唤和老版男主Tony Todd的回归使最后几分钟不那么乏味，可惜恐怖气息仍然严重不足
看得云里雾里，政治议题和整个故事并没有形成很好的结合，就感觉导演很想煮一锅香喷喷的饭，但是一个半小时后打开一看发现水还是水，米还是米。
在恐怖片和政治诉求两方面的努力都做得很失败，做不到逃出绝命镇那种剧本高度强行融入种族议题的电影多半会向本片那样扑街，同时对种族问题的观察也太片面太远了，祖师爷斯派克李还会拍吃喝嫖赌坑蒙拐骗的黑人底层劣根人物来体现这个群体的复杂性，到现在年轻导演镜头下就唯恐出现负面人物，白人女都对黑人饥渴难耐倒贴，一个gay哥哥的角色更是毫无作用纯粹作为政治正确锦上添花，这就是粉比黑更招黑的理由，结尾煽动对警察的仇恨更是low，从没有任何问题是靠偏见和仇恨能解决的，有这力气不如多拍拍整个制度系统性制造黑人贫民和犯罪者的过程，信不信所有倪哥都有班上被社会接纳，整个黑人群体立马变成社会一等良民？揭露点制度真相不比这装神弄鬼煽动仇恨强？
蛮好的，每一段皮影戏都是一个因为种族问题而产生的悲剧，整个戏很多画面和运镜能看出来导演蛮有灵气的。
所以是借都市传说来过于“直白并单纯”地控诉种族歧视……看得那叫一个尴尬……
但本片不仅毫不恐怖，调度不错但只服务于画面美感，连jump scare都算不上，政治表达更如此浅白，我都不好说这是让位之后的结果。
蜜蜂嗡鸣做群魔，镜中开膛找不同，高级公寓磨烂脸，寄生巢人生锯手……-为何总是折腾黑人政治正确的题材你们不累吗？-那为何历史和现实要强行塞给我们那么多素材呢？不存在艺术剥削消费现实，而是现实在剥削消费着一切；遗忘痛苦者只会让痛苦不断重演，糖果人化作每一个种族冤魂聚集起来的宏大叙事，对抗着白人体制对历史的“正确记忆”
都是讲述有关种族的事，得对黑人的历史有一定了解才能看得懂。
不要把它当特别翻拍或者传统的恐怖片看，当做用当代语境重新解构概念和故事看，我觉得很cool
赞美影片的镜头！首先是多段穿插剪影的表现方式，有种内敛的震撼力。然后是构图，不管是男主角独自走在曲折的回廊里，镜头由下往上使得四壁给人以不断挤压的狭小场面，亦或是相对镜子里呈现无数映象，高楼大厦中一扇窗上映出谋杀现场等的宽阔场面，都十分具有张力。
蛮好的，每一段皮影戏都是一个因为种族问题而产生的悲剧，整个戏很多画面和运镜能看出来导演蛮有灵气的。
49 恐怖片不恐怖 想借此来讨论社会问题也并没有多好的效果 反而形成了司马昭之心路人皆知的模样 看得我尴尬到脚趾抓地 整部影片不三不四的像个笑话 作为周末爆米花电影都无聊到让人昏昏欲睡的程度
对于这种夹带大量政治私货来污染恐怖片的行为表示基本不欣赏。观众都不是傻子。
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